Sports Media Dream Team
The Scenario:
You have to choose a 5-man team of sports media members to announce, report, and analyze the local, national, and global sports scene. Whether you’re favorite football team plays or the heavyweight boxing championship is on the line, 2-3 of these guys announce it. When you listen to the radio, 1-2 of these guys host the show and take calls. All reports, columns, blogs, chats, and mailbags will be written by the group, and every sportscenter, analysis show, or PTI-type programming will feature the group. Putting together a solid group for debating is key, as is maintaining a competent team for announcing and breaking down Xs and Os.
So, who’s in your group?
Some guys off the top of my head, not even close to a complete list, some of whom I hate, and in no particular order:
Al Michaels, Mark Madden, Max Kellerman, John Madden, Tony Cornheiser, Bill Simmons, Teddy Atlus, Merril Hoge, Ron Jaworski, Jim Rome, Dan Patrick, Kirk Herbstreet, Jon Miller, Pat Summerall, Dick Vitale, Rick Reilly, Mike & Mike, Mike & the Mad Dog, Kenny Mayne, Barry Melrose, Joe Rogan, Larry Merchant, Michael Wilbon, Peter Vescey, Keith Jackson, Don Cherry, Dick Vermeil, Peter Gammons, Jack Ramsey, Mel Kiper, Tom Jackson, Mike Tirico, Bill Walton, Charles Barkley, Bill Rafferty, Bob Costas, Rich Eisen, Vern Lundquist, Jim Lampley, Dick Enberg, Chris Berman, Marv Albert, Gus Johnson………
My initial thoughts:
-Gotta have a rock of a play-by-play guy to anchor the group. The bulk of our sports consumption is made up of the games themselves. At the same time a one-dimensional announcer with no personality would be a waste. A versatile play-by-play background would be ideal, but a good guy should be able to handle all sports in time.
-Another core guy might be an experienced talk-show host. The familiarity with many sports and experience in drawing other personalities into debate would be huge. A guy like this could bring it all together.
-At this point things could go off in a few different directions, depending largely on preferences among the sports. A former coach or a game-tape analyst? Big-mouthed ex-player? Smarmy reporter? All 3?
thegreatawakening
November 11, 2007
This is great. I need a little bit more time but I wanted to at least post to show that I read this, love it and will be answering.
Dean, you KNOW you’re going with the Smarmy reporter!!!
thav916
November 11, 2007
My 5-Man Team:
1. Stephen A. Smith – Immediately the first guy that popped into my head, although that’s probably because I think about him 24 hours a day. All jokes aside, I think that Stephen A. is perfect for this scenario. He has experience in print media, radio, and TV. He has shown knowledge in nearly every sport, including lesser sports like boxing and mixed martial arts. He is obviously opinionated, but solid enough to have a spot on SporsCenter. Simply put, he’s my #1 draft pick.
2. Mike Greenberg – Another well-rounded sports personality, Greenie has experience in radio, TV, and print media. He is obviously stellar as a radio and SportsCenter host, is capable of handling play-by-play duties, seems to have a knowledge of many sports, and is able to provide his metro opinion when necessary. All in all, a solid 2nd choice, in my opinion.
3. Kirk Herbstreit – I really like Herbie, who has some experience as a college football analyst as well as a sidekick to Mike Tirico on ESPN Radio. His youth is something that can’t be underestimated; I feel like a young guy is more likely to be more well-rounded in terms of many sports than an older guy. I have no doubt about Herbie’s ability to analyze any kind of football, and I am confident in his ability to provide insightful opinions.
4. Barry Melrose – No matter what anyone wants to believe, I still consider hockey to be one of the major sports. As a result, I want Barry Melrose on board to analyze the shit out of the sport. With the way that hockey is pretty much tuned out by a lot of people, a guy who knows the X’s and O’s of hockey is a key component to my team. Plus, Melrose is so sweet!
5. Peter Gammons – Man, I have no idea where to go with this pick. I would love to add a Verne, but I think I have Play-by-Play covered. I would love to add a Raftery, but I think I’m OK with basketball with Stephen A. Should I add a NASCAR guy? Do I even care? Gammons gets the call here as I really don’t have a baseball guy yet. To boot, Gammons has experience covering hockey and college basketball, too.
Anyone else think that someone should just hire us to serve the same purpose? Imagine Raible, Haver, Wells, and Dean just dominating a network. I’ve been told that I should be on radio. I see Haver as an in-game analyst, Wells as a play-by-play guy, and Dean as a studio analyst with his amazing insight.
Raible
November 11, 2007
By far the best part of Raible’s was Greenie being able to give a metro opinion when needed. To get 5 guys and have all sports covered is tough as there really aren’t too many guys that is in more than one sport. It’s also tempting to just go with my five favorite people but I won’t. Here goes nothing….
1. GUS JOHNSON-My play by play man. My studio host. I believe that NO ONE in the world makes a game sound more important than Johnson. He’s absolutely fantastic in college basketball. I used to think he was a little too much in NFL but I listened to him do a game earlier this year and he made the Seahawks-Bengals game seem like the Super Bowl and I feel he’s the best NFL play by play man there is. I have no doubt that he would spice up a regular NBA game and I think he’d be unreal announcing college football. He’s good at everything he does so I think he can learn the other sports. Could you imagine him doing boxing? It’d be perfect. As you can tell I’d like to listen to Gus anytime, any place and he’s top #1 guy.
2. Michael Smith-One of my favorite people on ESPN. I think he’s another guy that’s great at everything he does. Tend to agree with him more than anyone else. He’s a writer and being part of Around the Horn has shown he knows his stuff for all sports. When he fills in on the radio he’s excellent. His NFL Draft coverage was top notch. Bottom line is I feel like Smith “gets it” and I think 97% of other people in the media don’t. Only 28 years old. Pumped with my Gus and Smith start.
3. Max Kellerman-I think Kellerman is one of the most knowledgable people in the business. What I loved about him on Around the Horn was that when others spoke he was able to lay the smack down with mind-blowing intelligence. The man knows everything about everything and in a 5 man group like this I feel like Kellerman is equal to about 3 other regular men.
4. Chris Spielman-Ok ok, I’m goin with my boy here but I have to. With only 2 spots left I can’t really afford to pick a guy for NBA, a guy for NFL, a guy for MLB and a guy for NHL. Spielman is my favorite College Football analyst. I think he really knows the game well. The reason he gets the nod is because he hosts a radio show in Ohio. I have never heard it but my brother has and says it’s naturally sweet. I feel like because he hosts a radio show he has to know what he’s talking about in more than just football.
5. Steve Phillips-Another one of my boys. Phillips brings a different experience level than everyone else in my group. His specialty is obviously baseball but he can relate to any sport’s running of a team. I think he’s a great guy with a great sense of humor. From his weekly spot on Mike and Mike I also feel like he’s a fan of all sports and would be able to discuss more than just baseball.
Five guys is really tough. I just picked five so obviously I can do it. I think after everyone else (ok Dean and Wells) give their fivesomes it’d be fun to even expand to 10-15. While doing this you realize how many different aspects there are. Analysts, play by play, studio, writer, reporters, different sports, etc. But before we get to that let’s see some more fivesomes, and I don’t mean video of Wells on a Saturday night.
thav916
November 11, 2007
I think it’s real sweet how both Haver and I came up with 10 different people. I’m looking forward to reading everyone else’s opinions.
Raible
November 12, 2007
I definitely think the four of us should take over and the roles are perfect.
thav916
November 12, 2007
This is a real challenge.
I’m starting the process with the selection of my play-by-play man. Do I want to set a classic tone with a guy like Keith Jackson? Do I opt for a more versatile guy who won’t hold you back in the other areas of journalism like Raible did? Real tough. I feel like Marv Albert would be a nice choice here as a man who would give me a little bit of everything (yes, everything). Jon Miller, Gary Thorne, Vern Lundquist, and others would all be safe bets to do a fine job across the board too, but for me this is a pick I’m not going to second guess. I’m going with GUS JOHNSON, and the reasons Haver provided are mine as well. I see the Johnson pick as one that sets an energetic and passionate tone, covers my bases as far as PBP, and brings some nice upside to the table. With the approach and enthusiasm Gus rolls with I can see him evolving into a big time contributor to a heated debate on any sport. For now, he’s a proven horse in the league that’s my highest priority, and I can’t think of a better choice to bring the energy and mentality of football to the rest of the sports world.
Several years ago I felt like there were two young men who could be the next big thing on ESPN. One was a big city hoops reporter and the other was a dynamic young boxing aficionado. They both brought to the table a deep, broad knowledge of their featured sport to go along with a sharp tongue and intense approach to the freestyle sports argument. Their paths have evolved differently, yet the men find themselves on the air, in the spotlight, and listed on Haver’s and Raible’s all-media teams. While I quickly tired of Stephen A. Smith’s delivery and the persistent racial innuendo, I find myself concurring with Haver again- I’m going to make MAX KELLERMAN the point man of my group. Kellerman just brings a ton a talent with him wherever he goes. He’s a tireless sports nut who does his own homework, but he’s also quite capable of taking the sports argument to a level beyond the stats or even the games themselves. I’m comfortable picking up what Max in putting down in any medium and on any topic, sports or otherwise. He can keep up with the vibe and pace set by Johnson, and he’ll bring out the best in the rest of my choices.
Part II on the way…
thegreatawakening
November 12, 2007
Have Haver and Dean ever disagreed on anything?
Nevertheless, some solid choices by Haver and Dean. For the record, I like Tony Reali more than Max Kellerman, especially on Around the Horn, but that might just be me. Kellerman was solid as the host of the show, with Reali doing his job as Stat Boy, but I’ve grown to like Reali more so than Kellerman. I, Max, just didn’t do it for me.
I strongly considered Michael Smith and Steve Phillips, as well. Billy Raftery was also a thought, especially because he has some golf in his background.
Raible
November 12, 2007
Reali? Seriously? To each his own but I don’t think Reali has anything to offer besides pretending to look interested in the ramblings of his guests via eyebrow raise.
My other 3 will be coming soon- those were the only two crossover picks at least!
This is great.
thegreatawakening
November 12, 2007
Now that my core is set with Kellerman and Johnson, I have some delicate selections to make. Johnson will obviously be the man for all live events. Kellerman will be an interesting option as a color or 3rd man in the booth, but his main duties will be hosting everything else and stimulating conversation.
What I’d like to add now are a few things:
-A rock solid Xs and Os guy. This is tough because there is really no one who can handle this job for more than one sport. But that doesn’t mean that the right guy can’t learn. Jaws comes to mind as good candidate.
-A former NFL coach. With a young nucleus in tact, I’d like to bring an older, well-respected presence to my clubhouse. I’ll have a close eye on Kellerman’s “progressive” political slant, and I don’t want his liberal attitude to engulf my crew. I think a man like Dick Vermeil could help maintain a consistent set of conservative values, provide the strategic insights I need, and not hurt us in the personality department.
-A sabremetrician, or other type of “numbers guy,” would be great. KC Joyner comes to mind but that might be too much NFL. Plus I don’t think Joyner is that great. I think Kellerman will keep things level headed enough regardless, but a man with a deep understanding of quantitative analysis would be huge.
It was very, very tough, but here are my choices:
BILL PARCELLS. I just see him being able to fill the role of patriarch, along with providing insights on football and on coaching in general. In addition I think he and Kellerman would bring provide some quality studio tension. Parcells could head into the booth as a color man as well, but this move leaves me very lean in the writing department.
BILL SIMMONS. I wasn’t planning to include him, but at this point I need a writer, and Simmons is as prolific as they come. I see him working well with Kellerman, and my overall team creativity is very high. Conversations will reach new heights with these two coming up with unique takes. While Simmons can be somewhat repetitive in his jokes and opinions, I think this group will bring out the best in him. While I still lack a conventional sports columnist, well, who really cares?
Part III coming very shortly…
thegreatawakening
November 12, 2007
So what do I need now? I still don’t have a pure Xs & Os guy or a true analyst (the kind that uses data instead of bold, baseless claims like Salisbury). I also don’t have a “traditional” sportswriter, or a competent color analyst for basketball, baseball, or hockey. While I’m loaded as far as radio, pre-game, halftime, etc, I’m tempted to find another volatile personality to antagonize either Simmons or Parcells (Cornheiser?). Happily I don’t have an ex-players (Or do I? Are we sure Gus Johnson isn’t a hall-of-fame MMArtist or something?), but another coach or GM is intriguing.
Screw it, I’m going with….
BILL WALTON. Walton throws a weird wrench in everything we’re doing here. He teams up with Johnson to give me a crazy-dramatic duo for March Madness that can also spice up the NBA marathon. He should also match up nicely across from Parcells in the studio. While they both represent the older generation, I think their personalities would clash at times. Other times I think Simmons and/or Kellerman and Johnson would infuriate both.
Looking back, I clearly went for studio fireworks over written reporting and analysis. I am weakest in baseball, but then again talents like Kellerman and Simmons were brought in because they can cover so much ground. While Simmons isn’t always the most unbiased, he will provide plenty of material while Kellerman can step for important situations such as the playoffs. Basketball and football are covered, and Kellerman brings a rare dimension of boxing to the table. You see Kellerman’s name quite a bit, and he is the cog that allows this machine to run. Johnson is no-less important as the dependable backbone who flies under the radar only until kickoff or the first pitch.
thegreatawakening
November 12, 2007
Wells passed his team along:
Neil Everett, Ed Werder, Pedro Gomez, Jay Harris, Michelle Bonner
My Team’s Top 5 Potential 2007 Highlights:
1. Walton berating Simmons after Simmons defends Belichick and the Pats for cheating and running up the score.
2. Gus Johnson announcing the UFC upsets.
3-5. Gus Johnson announcing 3 other things for the first time.
thegreatawakening
November 12, 2007
Haha, Gus Johnson really is the man. For the life of me I don’t understand why he’s not higher up on the CBS announcing depth charts. I even read about people like Dr Z and Bill Simmons also loving him. Speaking of Simmons, I had a feeling someone would go with him. He’s such a well-known and well-liked guy and there aren’t too many options in his field. Him and Greenie as well. Greenie being on the morning show, he talks about a variety of sports. It seems like when I thought about guys to choose radio show hosts were the guys that really came to mind as they’ve proven themselves with a wide array of knowledge. I could see Mike Golic bein a choice too as a guy that can be an NFL specialist but also discuss other sports.
I’d select Reali over Kellerman in a landslide if I’m hanging out but Kellerman over Reali in an equally as large landslide for knowledge. I listened to Kellerman’s afternoon radio show this past Summer when I was in New Jersey and he immediately became my personal choice to replace Dan Patrick. If I factor myself into this equation and going to bars and the beach in down time Reali might be a choice but I didn’t take those things into consideration.
I’m shocked Dean didn’t go with Dick Vermeil. The Big Tuna is sweet, though. It’s along the same lines as my Phillips pick. They only coaches/ran teams in one sport but could relate to those aspects in other sports.
A guy I really wanted to go with but didn’t know where to fit him in was The Super Genius Mark Madden. Love Madden. Tells it like it is. Knows all sports. Knows the local scene. I think he’d kinda have to take Smith’s or Kellerman’s spot. I like Madden a lot more than my Spielman and Phillips choices but I thought I’d start to have too much of the same. Still tempting since he provides a different opinion than anyone else. As much as he berates his callers he always works well and has respect for his guests.
Charles Barkley is a guy I love and Walton as well. I was worried about having too many guys with those types of personalities that cause you to either love or hate the guy.
Gary Thorne would be a great play by play guy but can’t knock off Gus. A guy like Raftery everyone loves, but I just couldn’t find a spot for him. Same goes for Merril Hoge. I wanted to have him badly but went with Spielman for his talk show. Hoge would be great, though. Wilbon got consideration, too. One of the Bob Ryan/Kornheiser/Wilbon trifecta woulda been nice. TK obviously comes to mind but I think Wilbon pays attention to sports twice as much as Kornheiser and therefore woulda been my selection. Kenny Mayne is another guy that I almost went with. The guy does wackier things than anyone but also does SportsCenter as well as being a fan of some sports that others aren’t fans of. Come to think of it if I did my list again he might be one of my last 2 guys for his ability to bring things to the table that no one else can.
5 out of Gus, Michael Smith, Kellerman, Mark Madden, Mayne and Wilbon would be an AWESOME group but I just worried that I wouldn’t have any specialists. With only five guys, it might more sense NOT to have specialists, though, and only bring them into the fold in a 10 man group.
thav916
November 12, 2007
I’d also LOVE to go tie shopping with Mr Anthony Joseph Paul Herman Alejandro Reali!
thav916
November 12, 2007
I’m not a big Parcells fan. As Dean said earlier, to each his own, but if you’re going old NFL coach, then I’d prefer Ditka.
Raible
November 12, 2007
I, too, love Mayne. I actually had him on my list, citing things like his work on SportsCenter, NFL Live, the Mayne Event, and Horse Racing. But, unfortunately, I dumped him when I realized that I didn’t think I had enough X’s and O’s guys.
Raible
November 12, 2007
Vermeil- He was in my plans the whole time. The only reason I went with Parcells was because I haven’t seen a ton of Vermeil beyond the color work he did in that game last year. I know what Tuna brings and I felt like he was a safer bet to spice things up. If I wasn’t taking a practical approach it would be Vermeil big time.
Mayne- I like Mayne but I think he’s a little goofy. When I chose Simmons I eliminated Mayne. Does he know a ton of information? Maybe, but it hasn’t be demonstrated that he is an insider (like Mortensen) or a serious outside analyst (like Rob Neyer).
Barkley- I was planning to include Barley also, and I’m very tempted to replace Walton and Parcells with Vermeil and Barkley. I think they’d be awesome together. At the end of the day I just thought of that jackass Walton and had to throw him in there. My only reservation about Barkley is that while he is willing to talk about a variety of topics and nothing is off limits, I don’t always get the impression that he’s actually smart. He’s got opinions, (and who doesn’t love them?) but if I’m going top 5 I want a guy whose opinions are as well-formulated as they are unique, rather than a fat southern simpleton shootin from the hip.
Wilbon/Greenberg/Korn/*insert espn golden boy*- I wondered if these guys would get a lot of play here or if you guys were thinking the same thing as I was. Which is- they do a good job and they deserve to be featured, but I don’t feel like they ever say anything that makes me think.
Hoge- Also got some consideration, but I felt like he was pretty one-dmensional. Since I knew I was going with an NFL coach (not big on Ditka btw) I thought Hoge would turn it into an NFL Live set.
Mark Madden- I always wondered how he would fit in on a show where he interacted with others as equals. On his show he’s in charge and he gets to hang up on callers on change the subject in an interview when he gets pulled out of his element. On the plus side the man can talk about anything. On the downside I question how much actual knowledge he has beyond hockey. I think he often takes ideas that other people have thought up and uses them to choose a side for the purpises of debate. He’s good at it, and it makes for good drive-time, call-in radio, but I’m not sure if he would bring enough with him to warrant a spot in my top 5. I’d like to see him in a national situation though. He’s definitely bright enough and willing enough to get after the touchy topics in an entertaining and thought-provoking way. (As an aside, how scared are the espn execs to throw him onto around the horn or a show like that? Imagine the worst case scenario.) Hmmmm…Madden and Walton pitted against each other with Kellerman moderating and egging them on for the purposes of entertaining TV? I’m rethinking this.
thegreatawakening
November 12, 2007
Hmm…Let me first start by saying that I hate ESPN so much that I really don’t listen to their radio or watch their shows too much anymore.(SHOOT ME)I really can’t think of too many fave’s so I probably just list alot that I hate.
-If I am going for the all-around PBP guy, I’d probably go Gary Thorne. Thorney can do any sport under the sun and has the voice to match.
College Bball- Gus Johnson. For so many reasons, but how can I not love the energetic bball pbp guy?
Least favorite College Bball announcer- Len Elmore…Always confuse him with Len Bias, because he has such a big one against us and is generally doing our games.
College Football- I have to say that I don’t care about this as much as Bball- but Musberger is a solid constant who I enjoy. I also really liked TIRICO.
College Football Hate- PAM WARD. If you are going to have a vagina and not be attractive do your f’n homework.
MLB-Tough call as I don’t really listen to too many games until the playoffs where I’m usually stuck with….. Buck and McCarver- so to me anyone is better than these guys.
NFL- Just no Gumbels
Studio/Host- Chris Fowler- I love Fowler and there is nothing you can say to change that.
Radio/TV personality- I hate Rome.
Sideline- Bonnie Bernstein. I will probably love B-squared for the rest of eternity.
Like I said I don’t watch enough things to warrant any other selections, but I’m sure others will come to me.
-Def like the Walton and Barkley picks.
-Def dislike Gwynn because of his annoying voice.
-Def dislike Clayton and Salisbury.
-Def Like Herbstreit and Corso.
-Def Dislike Stuart Scott
When I get more time I will try to comment off of all of your picks and discussion
Wells
November 12, 2007
I also thought Frank ‘Twinkle Toes’ Twigg was a shoe-in for Deano.
thav916
November 13, 2007
Hey, you could always select Chris Rose, Rob Dibble, Rodney Peete, and John Salley and have arguably the worst show known to mankind?!?!
Raible
November 13, 2007
Haha, did I really put Twigg? Haha
I’m officially changing my 5.
Gus, Smith, and Max are retained. Mark Madden and Kenny Mayne are brought on.
My thinking behind this is with only 5 guys I don’t really want specialists. Not saying it’s wrong but I’m just not gonna limit myself.
Between Kellerman, Madden and Mayne you have experts at boxing, soccer, hockey and horse racing. Those are four sports you’re gonna be hard pressed to find out of someone that isn’t a specialist. Kellerman and Madden are smart guys and opinionated. I think Madden would be nationally and also is great at covering the local scene. Mayne was Randall Cunningham’s backup QB at UNLV so he has to know football. Plus, he’s Kenny Mayne. No one else does the things he does.
Gus is still bein the man. Smith is still bein the man.
I feel this fivesome is much more diverse than my previous one but would be completely fine discussing the major sports, NFL, MLB and NBA.
thav916
November 13, 2007
Shit, gotta also mention Madden being a professional wrestling expert. That’s huge!
thav916
November 13, 2007
See, I don’t think that Madden is any good. I think he knows pretty much nothing, and is simply only decent at lighting up phone lines. I don’t consider him to be an expert on anything. He likes the Penguins, so he thinks he’s an expert on hockey. He likes Liverpool, so he thinks he knows soccer…which is a joke!
Nevertheless, I understand the rationale behind putting him on your roster. I just don’t like him. However, if he’s doing nothing but “Who Wants to Win $15″, then he’s a gold mine.
Oh yeah, and he is definitely an expert on pro wrestling…that’s probably about it!
Raible
November 13, 2007
I just re-read my Madden thoughts and want to clarify that I’m really not as mad as it might sound. I just wanted to point out that I really don’t like the guy and clearly don’t think he is as credible as you guys do.
Cheers!
Raible
November 13, 2007
Ok, so I briefly read the description of what I was posting and after reading everyone’s picks, I will go with my 5:
1. Being a former PBP guy myself I really value this position, and as much as I LOVE Gus I think he takes away from the value of a football game. A guy gaining a yard for him is like someone just breaking the single season rushing record. The guy I mentioned in my previous post was Gary Thorne and I love Thorney, but I’ve NEVER heard him do Football or Basketball and while he may be amazing at the other two major sports, I have to believe that those are the two major college sports that I love to watch.
Therefore my first choice is going to be Mike Tirico- He has the pipes, is the current MNF #1, was great announcing the Quincy Wilson run, good in the baseball booth, can only imagine he’d be real good doing PBP for basketball(don’t know if he already does, just can’t remember hearing him), and honestly I think he has the voice and the emotion to be a great hockey broadcaster.
2- This is my second booth guy and another tough choice. While I listed a bunch of guys(women) I hate in the booth, I really can’t put my finger on too many I like. I think as Haver mentioned, Phillips does a great job in the studio and the booth, but I’m not sure his knowledge goes beyond the diamond. I actually kind of like Mike Patrick and didn’t know if it was because I thought he was good or because I hated Theismann. So far no complaints with Jaws, but I think another guy who is well-spoken and can handle the studio and booth is Herbstreit. I like Kirk’s analysis of the college game, but feel like he is not just limited to this area. I feel like you could toss him into any sport and he’d find his way around pretty quick. I think he does his homework and makes very concise points.
3. I know this is another ESPN guy and a co-worker of Herbie’s, but I love Chris Fowler. I think it’s a bit of a bias because I actually sat and talked sports with him at an update desk in ESPN studios one time, but he can be my lead studio guy and fill in the PBP holes if necessary. He does his homework and is great leading people into their points.
4. Now I am going to select two guys who I think do a great job across the board outside the booth to round out my top 5. First, I definitely love Barkley, he’s fun, talks alot of sports and isn’t afraid to be the but of the jokes while he imparts some knowledge. Obviously a big Bball guy, but I’ve heard him in the MNF booth before and think he could bring much needed color to any studio or booth.
5. This last one was really difficult. I really believe most of the black sports analysts(SAS and Wilbon) tend to lean to much into the “WORLD HATES US” routine everytime there is the smallest ounce of racial undertones. However, I still believe both are really good. On the flipside, i find Kornheiser to be a little much sometimes as well. I’ve never heard the Sports Guy on-air and not sure I’m the biggest Greeney fan(notice I’m listing all the people I don’t want here?) Gammons would be solid, but if this is my keeper league, I’m not sure how much he’s got left in the tank. One guy I actually really liked, who I think got shafted a couple of years back was David Aldridge. I think he was good on-air, on the sidelines, in the studio, and in print. Therefore, I think for now I will go with him.
Again, I just don’t listen to much sports radio or watch too many of the ESPN shows, therefore, I feel like my knowledge is limited to who I don’t like. Dean almost came close to my top 5, but really hit a dead end at ED WERDER.
Oh and by the way, we would have a sweet crew of analysts, and I’d love to host our booth. My one request is that Raible does the lists, Dean acts real smarmy and Haver have about 87 man-crushes.
Wells
November 13, 2007
I think madden knows his stuff and is the man. I could think stephen a smith is a joke but he wasn’t one of my selections so im not that worried bout it. the super genius is one of my choices because I like him.
thav916
November 13, 2007
Mark Madden- What A HOMER pick
Wells
November 13, 2007
Of course you chose Madden because you like him…I wasn’t trying to start anything by my comments. I just wanted to comment that, while some people like him, I, in fact, do not.
Raible
November 13, 2007
Herb is a good pick. I thought he was a dark horse for the Dan Patrick slot, and he eneded up being one of the featured co-hosts. I think he can handle himself anywhere.
Aldridge was pretty under the radar but I think that he’s a nice pick too. It’s easy to attach people in the media to whatever job they utilized to find their way to the national sports scene, when in fact they may not even be in their ideal role. Since the “reporter caste” generally talk like robots aside from the not-so-occasional and contrived voice inflection (wow, what a dorky rant), it’s easy to dismiss the people themselve as nothing more than the drones they play on tv. When I’ve seen/heard Aldridge in softer tv and radio settings he’s seemed like a real live human with the potential to handle Dream Team responsibilities. I wouldn’t have picked him but he’s an interesting choice.
Interesting perspective from Wells on the play by play and host roles. I could definitely see industry insiders viewing Gus Johnson’s approach as somewhat amateurish and over-the-top. In any discipline, practioners lacking a mastery of nuance can offend the refined senses of the men who hold the craft dear, such as Wells. (*waits for applause*) But seriously, I can appreciate that take, especially since it was prefaced with praise for Gus. I would agree fully that Tirico is a skilled and talented pbp guy. In all his work you get the impression that he has spent his career identfying and destroying his flaws, and he has reached the pinacle of his profession through intelligence and hard work. Plus, as you said, he’s got the pipes. You’re also the first to bring up the actual job of the studio host, which is to set up the *cough* talent. It would be interesting to do an episode of around the horn with Fowler, Ravech, and other hosts so we could actually hear an opinion for once. I bet these guys are ready to explode sometimes. The best is on BBTN- Kruk and co. start in with the mindless babble, Ravech attempts to lead them into lucency, then gives up is disbelief and slips in a sarcastic jab as they cut to commercial.
thegreatawakening
November 13, 2007
I tend to think Tirico has regressed in the NFL. I also always recall the Quincy Wilson call or the back to back kickoff returns in the Pitt-Louisville game. I don’t hear that type of excitement anymore. Now you could say that in the NFL you can’t get as excited, but well, I’ll point to Gus Johnson. Tirico’s a solid guy, though. No doubt about that. Guys like him and Brad Nessler I feel like are top of the line in everything they do. I’d put Al Michaels in this group although he’s getting older. Verne is one of my favorite and although he’s old, I feel like the old jolly is part of why I love him. Thorne is also one of my favorite and I put him along the lines of Gus, as I’d listen to these two announce anything on the planet and be pumped. I really don’t like Mike Patrick. I feel like he’s always rooting against the team I’m rooting for. Hate that. One guy that I think is underrated is Dan Schulman. Did a great job in College Hoops with Dickie V, has been bumped up to NBA to solidify their announcers and I think Schulman and Soup announcing MLB baseball on ESPN Radio are absolutely fantastic. Also love Marv, especially when with The Czar.
I’d say my 3 personal favorites are Gus, Thorne and Verne. After that I’d put a second tier of all of the guys I named other than Mike Patrick. I’m sure I’m forgetting some other big timers. I tend to dislike Joe Buck and Jim Nantz very very strongly, though.
Madden is a homer pick but part of the criteria was in fact local sports.
thav916
November 14, 2007
I like Al Michaels and Verne Lundquist for Play-by-Play more than anyone else. I really don’t particularly care for Dan Schulman. I feel like he is the one for me that is always rooting against the team I’m rooting for (maybe it’s something about working with Dickie V?).
I’m fine with Nantz and Buck, as well as Gus. My ideal Play-by-Play guys for each sport are as follows:
NFL: Al Michaels
NBA: Marv Albert
MLB: Joe Buck
NHL: Gary Thorne or Mike Emerick
NCAAF: Verne Lundquist
NCAAB: Verne Lundquist
Raible
November 14, 2007
FYI Dan Patrick Show is on Fox Sports Radio now. Not sure the exact time it’s on but I’ve caught it around 11 am eastern. It’s still great.
thegreatawakening
November 16, 2007
I’ve been catching DP lately as well and he’s still the man.
thav916
November 17, 2007
One guy who we didn’t mention who I immediately would consider for my squad is Jay Bilas. I think that Bilas brings a lot of the same qualities to ESPN and College Basketball that Kirk Herbstreit brings to ESPN and College Football. Plus, they are both beefcakes!
Raible
November 19, 2007
The last two Simmons podcasts:
Gus Johnson and Bill Walton. I love hearing my team in action!
thegreatawakening
November 27, 2007
As an aside from the Dream Team concept, does anyone else care to list the Actual Teams that they prefer to tune in to for each sport? Mine…
NFL: Al Michaels and John Madden, NBC
MLB: Jon Miller and Joe Morgan, ESPN
NBA: Kevin Harlan and Doug Collins, TNT
NHL: Mike Emrick and Eddie Olczyk, NBC
NCAAF: Verne Lundquist and Gary Danielson, CBS
NCAAB: Verne Lundquist and Billy Raftery, CBS
GOLF: Jim Nantz and Nick Faldo, CBS
AUTOS: Brent Musberger, ABC
Time for the Brawl!!!
Raible
December 2, 2007
NFL: Gus Johnson and Steve Tasker, CBS
MLB: Dan Schulman and Dave Campbell, ESPNRadio
NBA: Kevin Harlan and Doug Collins, TNT (Marv and the Czar close 2nd, but Harlan is the best)
NHL: Gary Thorne and Barry Melrose, Any channel possible
NCAAF: Verne Lundquist and Gary Danielson, CBS
NCAAB: Verne Lundquist and Billy Raftery, CBS
GOLF: Verne and Verne, CBS
thav916
December 7, 2007